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Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

by Richard_I in

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friends

this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

link to video.

i'm writing a transcript right now.

Brokeback Watchtower

Public awareness is much greater then when I was a kid, society is coming out of the dark ages of with what it consider's cruelty we seem to be in a vary forward direction in a very small space of time back from 40 years ago. In this I agree with AM#3 hey even a broken clock is right twice every 24 hours.

The Governing Body seem to be at the bottom of the learning curve when it comes to society in general no doubt because they are stuck in the bronze age with their catering to the whims of Jehovah.

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Why Is This New Batch of Governing Body Members So Stupid?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.

organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.

and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.

Brokeback Watchtower

Well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, Satanophobia, Xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.

Listen to this Ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:

Organizations are often run according to “the superchicken model,” where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others. And yet, this isn’t what drives the most high-achieving teams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyn_xLrtZaY

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How many lawsuits?

by kairos in

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could this be a "wake up trigger" question to a nosy elder?.

"how many pedophile lawsuits are the wts legal team currently defending?".

how would/could they answer?why should the answer be secret?.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses'_handling_of_child_sex_abuse

In 2008, the Watch Tower Society of Britain, in discussions with the UK Charities Commission, undertook to produce a Child Protection Policy and update its procedures to bring them into line with other religious and secular bodies.[31]
Cover-up allegations[edit]
Critics claim that in many cases, members of Jehovah's Witnesses have been prevented from reporting child molestation to civil authorities[32] Particularly since around 2000, the Jehovah's Witnesses organization has been accused of covering up cases of child molestation committed by its members. In February 2001, Christianity Today—an evangelical journal that disagrees with the theological perspective of Jehovah's Witnesses—printed an article reporting allegations that Jehovah's Witnesses' policies made reporting sexual abuse difficult for members, and did not conform to typical treatment of such cases. The article also included a response by representatives of Jehovah's Witnesses.[33]
The BBC reported allegations of a cover-up in July 2002, in an episode of Panorama entitled "Suffer the Little Children".[34] The report revealed that the headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Watch Tower Society, requires all congregations to submit details of child abuse allegations and maintains an internal database on all cases of child abuse reported to them.[35] It described one case where a child came forward to the elders of her congregation to report sexual abuse by her father, but was sent home, despite their having known for three years that her father was an abuser. When the girl eventually went to the police, her father was convicted and sentenced to five years in prison.[34]
According to Witness spokesman J. R. Brown, Jehovah's Witnesses are not required to report crimes to elders before calling civil authorities. Victims and their families are free to call police, he said, although some don't choose to.[36] The Watch Tower Society maintains a policy with no explicit requirement for elders to report all child abuse cases where such is not required by law. Elders are instructed to "leave matters in Jehovah's hands" if an abuser denies the accusations and there is no second witness available.[33] [32]
2014 investigations in the United Kingdom[edit]
In 2013 at the Jehovah's Witnesses congregation of Moston, Manchester, England, church elder and convicted paedophile Jonathan Rose, following his completion of a nine-month jail sentence for paedophile offences, was allowed in a series of a public meetings the people to cross-examine the children he had molested.[37][38] Rose was finally ‘disfellowshipped’ after complaints to the police and the Charity Commission for England and Wales.[37]
In a separate incident, prior to the trial and conviction for rape and sexual assault in June 2014 of Mark Sewell, an elder of the congregation in Barry, Wales, the church conducted an internal investigation of the allegations, where the women and children had to face their alleged abuser in “judicial committee” hearings organised by their church.[39] A child victim, for whom Sewell was later convicted of rape, alleged that she was questioned closely by church elders when she came forward years after the attack, and was required to describe the incident to them in intimate detail, with Sewell present, but her claims were dismissed by the committee and not taken to the police for further investigation.[40][41] In June Sewell was jailed for fourteen years for the rape and sexual abuse of parishioners, including children.[42][43] All but one of Sewell's fellow elders who investigated claims against him, declined to give evidence in his Crown Court trial. They also provided no assistance to police and prosecutors in their investigation, despite “dis-fellowshipping” Sewell 20 years previously, and destroyed evidence showing claims against Sewell dating back more than 20 years.[44] In June 2014, Sewell was sentenced to fourteen years in prison for eight sex offenses; in December 2014 he appealed unsuccessfully for reduction of his sentence.[45]
In June and July 2014, the Charity Commission for England and Wales announced that it was formally investigating both the Moston[37] and Barry[46][47] congregations over their child protection policies, to be conducted independently of two statutory inquiries opened the previous month into Jehovah’s Witnesses charities in relation to issues including child protection.[48][49] The Charity Commission noted that it had "serious concerns" about the Manchester New Moston Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, having most recently opened a case into it in December 2013.[50][37] The Watch Tower Society subsequently sought judicial review of the Charity Commission's enquiry; this was denied on 12 December 2014, on the grounds that the Charities Act 2011 required all other legal avenues to be exhausted prior to application for judicial review.[51] Subsequent appeals against the investigation by the New Moston Congregation and the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain to the Charity Commission's tribunal were rejected in April 2015.[52]
In two separate cases in England in December 2014, Jehovah's Witnesses elders in Bournemouth and Plymouth were convicted and sentenced for the sexual abuse of children.[53][54]
Lawsuits[edit]
In a press release dated November 21, 2007, Jehovah's Witnesses' Office of Public Information stated:[55]
In the United States, over 80,000 elders currently serve in over 12,300 congregations … During the last 100 years, only eleven elders have been sued for child abuse in thirteen lawsuits filed in the United States; In seven of these lawsuits against the elders, accusations against the Watchtower Society itself were dismissed by the courts.
In 2004, a Canadian court awarded CAD$5000 to a plaintiff for the negligence of an elder who failed to follow the official policy of the church. However, the court dismissed charges against the Watch Tower Society, and directed the plaintiff to pay the Watch Tower Society's legal fees amounting to CAD$142,000.[56][57]
In 2007 during a trial motion in the Napa, California court against the Watchtower Society, victims' lawyers convinced the court that 'ecclesiastical privilege' does not supersede the legal obligation of clergy to report child sex abuse to secular authorities. The Watchtower Society paid an undisclosed amount without admitting wrongdoing in an out-of-court settlement with 16 unnamed victims of alleged sexual abuse within the religion. According to court documents obtained by NBC News, one plaintiff was awarded over US$780,000.[58][59] The Press-Enterprise newspaper reported in 2008 that subpoenaed elders declined to testify against accused penitents, citing the confidentiality of penitent-clergy privilege.[60] However elders did not object to testifying once a specific matter of penitent-clergy privilege had been adjudicated.[61]
In June 2012, a California court ordered the Watchtower Society to pay more than US$20 million in compensatory and punitive damages to a woman who, as a child, was allegedly abused by a member. The court found that congregation elders, following the policies of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, contributed to the abuse. The court stated that the elders as agents of the Watch Tower Society failed to disclose to other parents regarding the confession of the molester who inappropriately touched his step daughter, adding that the degree of reprehensibility was of "medium range". Based on the ratio between the compensatory and punitive damages, the court subsequently reduced the Watch Tower Society's total liability to US$10 million,[62] Lawyers for the Society appealed the ruling, calling the decision "unprecedented" and denying responsibility for abuse.[63][64] In April 2015, the appeal court concluded that the Watchtower Society was negligent in preventing the abuse and upheld the trial court's decision of compensatory damages amounting to $7 million, of which $2.8 million is to be paid by the Watchtower Society and the congregation. However, the court found that the Watchtower Society did not have a duty to warn members of the congregation.[65]
In October 2014, a case was heard in San Diego, California. When he was seven years old, Jose Lopez was abused by Gonzalo Campos. Witness elders were aware that Campos had previously abused at least one other child, but assigned Campos to instruct Lopez. Campos later confessed to abusing at least eight children between 1982 and 1995, and subsequently fled to Mexico. For failing to protect Lopez from a known offender and for its subsequent refusal to co-operate with the court, the Watch Tower Society was ordered to pay $13.5 million to the plaintiff. The Watch Tower Society appealed the ruling.[66][67] The law firm representing Lopez has filed similar cases in the U.S. states of Connecticut and Vermont,[68] and in California, Oregon and New Mexico.[69]
In The United Kingdom in June 2015, the High Court of Justice in London awarded damages of £275,000 to an unnamed woman known only as 'Amelia' because the Jehovah's Witnesses failed to protect her from a known paedophile, Peter Stewart. 'Amelia' alleged Stewart abused her from the age of four and threatened that she would be "damned as a sinner" if she told anyone about the abuse. The abuse ended only when Stewart was arrested for offenses against another child.[70][71]

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Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

by Richard_I in

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friends

this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

link to video.

i'm writing a transcript right now.

Brokeback Watchtower

He sounds like he's on some medication, I mean he's a leader of a delusional cult that has no mercy and has to think up all sorts of ways to keep his company afloat and come up with utter bull shit ideas full of denial.

And lets not forget how turned on he gets when he even sees someone in tight pants so much so that he rants on and on during a important meeting abroad about how disgusting his imaginary sock puppet Jehovah feels when he looks down to earth billions of light years away and sees people wearing spandex. To me it is obvious this job is killing him and he needs his meds to get him through the day without blabbering too much bull shit and wind up getting stuck in the Bethel psych ward hell whole and loose his Faithful and discreet status.

98

Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

by Richard_I in

jw
friends

this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

link to video.

i'm writing a transcript right now.

Brokeback Watchtower

I hope they get to hear AM#3 latest rant of denial before they pass judgement.

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Questions to ask after July broadcast

by scooterspank in

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just wondering what questions you might ask an active jw following the july broadcast and the 10 minutes addressing child sex abuse?

or is it even worth the trouble.

Brokeback Watchtower

Am#3 what did your do with the money your mother gave you to see a psychiatrist?

Do you think Now is the time to take that money and as much as you can get and get a good reputable psychiatrist and not a dumb fucking one that is a JW?

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How would you respond to this defense made on behalf of The Watchtower's Child Abuse lawsuits?

by adjusted knowledge in

details of the society's child abuse policies have been published in jehovah's witnesses' publications, although more specific guidelines are only made available to elders, or on request.

press releases issued by the watch tower society's office of public information confirm that if a person accused of molestation repeatedly denies the charges of his victim, and there is no other witness to the incident, "the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time", but would report to authorities if required by local laws.

our families jehovahs witnesses and child protection.

Brokeback Watchtower

Pretty fucking lame defense because you didn't say shit your appeal would only work on complete ass holes like yourself you fucking wind bag. You insult the intelligence of your public listeners with all the stupid shit that comes out of your mouth because you expect them to believe you.

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Questions to ask after July broadcast

by scooterspank in

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friends

just wondering what questions you might ask an active jw following the july broadcast and the 10 minutes addressing child sex abuse?

or is it even worth the trouble.

Brokeback Watchtower

Do you AM#3 even feel there is a chance you are in a deep state of denial as to the suffering the Corporation is causing young people?

How does it feel to have so many child molestation lawsuits on the books with the possibility of many more future ones?

Do you think the courts are a tool of Satan perhaps getting revenge for your destruction of his plastic wizard warlock Sparlock?

And can we have some more kiddie video featuring a final battle with Sparlock the warrior wizard being vaporized by Jehovah?

And when is Lett's turn to give another rubber mouth rendition of something insane?

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Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

by Richard_I in

jw
friends

this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

link to video.

i'm writing a transcript right now.

Brokeback Watchtower

We can't even hope for an apology for the victims that have suffered because of this self right bastard that thinks he's running God's earthly organization, the best that he can give out are a few pats on the back for his corporation. These guys are in big trouble with this big mouth on the internet he's like a bull in a china shop with his remarks it is gonna cost lots of buck$$$ every time he speaks his foolishness that only a brain dead JW could love.

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What Can Circuit Overseers Who Come To Know The Truth About The Truth Do To Cripple The Delusional Watchtower Corporation?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well it is only natural to assume that a modest number of cos&wives, bethelites, and other people are becoming enlightened shall we say as to the real sinister nature of these sociopaths called the faithful and discreet governing body slave bull shit artist.. so what besides making secret documents public can these do to get some type of satisfactional revenge for being used by them in such a cruel way or like a smuck who they don't even give one shit about.

what can these ladies and men do?

how can they get some form of pay back for all the years they wasted slaving for these no good greedy bastards called the governing fucking body?

Brokeback Watchtower

One important fact is that there is often a big disconnect between what is wrong and what is illegal. If something is not against any laws there is precious little a person can do about it using the legal system.

I agree with you there.

My thoughts are that laws are changing or adapting to the increased attention certain wrongs that frauds like the Watchtower corporation use to inflict harm and get away with it.

or new laws for charities to follow to be legally considered a charity.

Laws prohibiting the using of a vow of poverty to avoid paying for labor without any kind of reasonable compensation for services rendered used by a charitable organization would go against some moral disgust that eventually makes some type of compensation law that would render such activity illegal and force some type of more fairer treatment of people who sign their live away to a corporation.